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and I want this information out and see

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what people can figure out and find out

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yeah folks out there let us know what

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you find out and if you file it for you

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and get a response let us know if you

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are on the base at that time two years

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ago today and have additional

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information we're all here

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those are not alone rounds because learn

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rounds fall no you can see like an

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outline or something

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of course I thought it was flares at

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first a bunch of Marines started coming

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to me I was able to find them within 36

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hours all the witnesses say they saw a

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huge triangular shape craft the Marines

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they insist they saw a crowd the

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internet has dismissed the Marines and

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saying this must be flares so the truth

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is in there somewhere is this case a UFO

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or is it flares and light this is an

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open case these are Specialists and

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that's why I'm taking this seriously is

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I'm not going to dismiss what the

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reports that come from the actual people

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on the ground are you getting interest

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are you getting people who are

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contacting you oh yeah I'm being blown

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up right now for more and more people

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that saw this and say they saw the body

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Secrets cover-ups and strange phenomena

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UFOs and ideas that challenge reality

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itself all these Mysteries all this time

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are we ever going to get to the bottom

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of these my name is George Knapp I dig

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into news stories that others can't or

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won't I'm Jeremy Corbell and for some

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reason people tell me things they

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probably shouldn't

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is weapons

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this is weaponized we're using a

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different format this week Jeremy I look

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better when there's no video

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that's great man you know you've been on

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camera more since we began the the

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weaponized podcast that I think in

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probably your entire career as far as

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hours wide it was is that fair to say

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yeah I am the only TV reporter in the

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country that doesn't like being on TV

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and the older I get the less I like it

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but here we are

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um so what's going on any news this week

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anything happening kind of quiet out

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there right or not oh yeah UFO Twitter

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is super quiet from what I hear

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um finally you know people are kind of

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like sending me stuff and you know I'm

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looking at it man people are pissed it's

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like on it just gotta speak you know

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freely right now you and I

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put out a case we couldn't resolve we

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get more photos without those videos and

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photos we wouldn't have anything we

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wouldn't have any way to look farther

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into this case but it was like a UFO

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crime to not have had a case completely

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solved but from my perspective well

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information that we have here uh there

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are some great hypothesis that people

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this case out to get more information

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and that worked not only from the public

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individuals who are actually there

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uh so we'll recap a little bit for

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week's episode uh you know last week on

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weaponized we shared some information

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show strange lights in the sky that

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they substantiated triangular form you

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declared our belief that this is an

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alien spaceship or an emissary from the

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planet conduct right was it you who said

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that oh yeah definitely if you rewind

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spaceship and everybody should get on

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board and go to Joe Rogan's Mothership

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and watch a comedy show now I I [\h__\h]

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saying I know what it is what I'm saying

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here you go time to investigate yeah

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very clear uh we and I agree with you

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worthy of investigation and we figured

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people and try to do data analyst

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analyzation you know we don't have the

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full Hardware of our military so we have

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the media and we're trying to figure

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[\h__\h] things people are saying

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and and that's cool that's fine with me

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spreading the word hey you really can

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that point where I am satisfied and I

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absolute truth is about this but you

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dissent but there's a few things we'll

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everything that was said to you and me

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UFO world and this time we decided to

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guy is going to automatically quickly

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come up with an alternate explanation

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anything that sticks and we know that

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there's another guy who will go running

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inevitable sequence of events and to

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rely on debunkers in essence to help

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spread the word far and wide debunk to

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finally been able to hear from people

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that we were not able to hear from

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before we had we we had worked on this

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for two years and that's not working

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every single day on one case it's over a

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if we can find more people to send us

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information to give us interviews

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statements on and off the Record and

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what this thing might have been so in

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from last week some we're going to hear

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from today for the first time

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it's like you know we get one image well

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that that's not enough to go off of so

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it it took those years to start calling

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around and getting people that could

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and go on record and so then having

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those multiple angles look the debunkers

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all of these multiple multiple videos

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it like I'm I am grateful

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or the genuine analysis and interest and

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there is power in crowdsourcing but for

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selfishly I I also wanted to kind of

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make inroads to get a deeper Story the

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deeper story here what is it that we're

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seeing with with the Mojave UAP you know

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hear from them everybody that went on

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record with me believes that they they

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saw a craft or that's what they they're

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that's where they are now and I'm going

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over some of the evidence with them

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trying to trying to figure that out but

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so check it out let's talk about real

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quick some of the accusations against

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this because it's so sad if you put

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something out and and people create fake

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accusations then it kind of makes it

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difficult to to bring out UFO cases that

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we want better studied in the future so

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let's let's go through them so George

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first of all one of there's like four

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major accusations that we hid

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information that there was a training

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exercise out at the base during the time

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that these marines were there training

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what do you think about that well that's

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that reaction to the Mojave triangle the

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allegation that we somehow tried to pull

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a fast one I mean we hid the fact that

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they train at this base and they blow up

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players and why did you do that Jeremy I

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thousand square miles uh it's gigantic

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the base was created to do training blow

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stuff up shoot off flares and mortars

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and artillery pieces they train there

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every single day the Marines we spoke to

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were there for training they told us you

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know do they think we're going to hide

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this by the way there's there's gambling

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in Las Vegas and McDonald's serves

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burgers

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that's right and look you know I'll tell

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you I mean living out in Pioneer town

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you know which is right by 29 Palms you

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hear those bombs you feel bombs going up

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there are trainings all the time there's

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trainings every day whenever there are

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Marines there there's trainings and so

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yeah that was really strange to me I

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think that was more of like a personal

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attack to try to you know go at people's

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credibility reporting the news than

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anything else

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um it's ridiculous if you talk to any of

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the Marines there which I did and you'll

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hear from some of them there are

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trainings all the time they see flares

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all the time they do live ordinance

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training all the time so I think

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honestly that's just a try to a personal

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dig to try to get at people's

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credibility

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um our job is is to report the news and

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to get information out there and if we

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learn new stuff we'll report on that I

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know that when we first saw those videos

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the First videos we thought that could

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be flares I mean we both thought that

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and you know and now we know that there

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was video post listed by the Department

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of Defense on the same date that shows

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an array of supposed flares that looks

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very similar to this configuration I

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think that that is a valid point to be

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raised but look I don't think it's

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definitive regardless of what the

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critics have said because we don't know

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a whole lot about that that video clip

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do we right yeah that's interesting

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let's dig into that for a second so I

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and a lot of this is in real time you

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know kind of new to me I don't read

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social media but now I've kind of been

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informed about it I see it that's cool

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so there is a training video that is up

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on a military website and it shows a

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compilation of footage and it was filmed

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at uh I think it was range 210 and on

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the 20th there was a training exercise

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like there is a bunch of training

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exercises and it did show five lights

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that are you know kind of in

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configuration from flares but it's it's

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an infrared and you can see a lot of the

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smoke coming off however there's

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mishmashes of footage on other dates so

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where the only way we could prove that

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that is what the Marines saw and look

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they would they would love to know

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Marines are Straight Shooters no

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[\h__\h] they'd love to know if if what

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they saw was some sort of mass

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hallucination so what what we need to do

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is get that exact

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location and make sure that's correct

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and then get the metadata and if it go

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if those things were up in the air at

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the right orientation at the exact time

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Case Closed super cool but we but we

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don't have that information so we have

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to get that and there's a few ways that

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we are you and I are going to be able to

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get that

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um are we going to mention something

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about when that video was actually

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recorded because it's because it was

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posted on the same date people assumed

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that it was shot on the same date and

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it's the same object do we know much

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more about that well it was actually I

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think it was posted on the 23rd and it

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was talking about an exercise they did

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at range 210 on the 20th which would

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have been the same night as the

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sightings the thing is is we don't know

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for sure and and if that's the answer

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you know if that is the answer that's

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great the only issue I have is that I

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did a quick look at range 210 a buddy of

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mine named Michael who's super cool kind

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of tipped me off on how I could look at

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this better

372
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anyway it's 18 miles away so if the

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range that had these exercises it's a

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little fake town they have there it was

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18 miles away so my question is these

376
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marines the the closest that or the

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farthest sorry that they said it could

378
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have been was like four to six months I

379
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said like give me the absolute farthest

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when you see this thing that looks like

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it's got a body of a crap how far could

382
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it be and it was much much uh closer

383
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than what they're saying but again maybe

384
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it's an optical thing George I just

385
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don't know and the whole point is is you

386
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and I we as we get information we report

387
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it but we don't parrot stuff when it's

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just weakly analyzed right you have to

389
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know for sure and that's what we're

390
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trying to do so that was a good one that

391
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was a good one

392
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um there was questions about the number

393
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of witnesses that we've talked to uh how

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do we come up with the figure of perhaps

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80 Marines witness this thing

396
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uh well yeah we know that for sure so so

397
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over okay you're asking me rhetorically

398
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or something okay so check it out

399
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um so at Camp Wilson there were 50 plus

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I have talked to so many of the people

401
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that are there and some of them have

402
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gone on record uh very you know it's

403
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hard a lot of people don't if they're

404
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still active or they've got super

405
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serious jobs they don't they don't want

406
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to be they just want to know the truth

407
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they don't want to be in the media so

408
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from all accounts and because of who is

409
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deployed there or deployed who is

410
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training there at Camp Wilson alone is

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50 plus that we're watching this and

412
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then you have the whole response that

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happened after this so you know they say

414
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about 50 to 60 five ton carriers which

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carry multiple Marines and then also

416
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Humvees and then you have helicopters

417
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and you have planes just tearing trying

418
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what they say is like trying to see what

419
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was going on what that was what was

420
00:16:03,769 --> 00:16:01,500
there there were two more kind of

421
00:16:06,170 --> 00:16:03,779
criticisms George that that I my mom

422
00:16:08,689 --> 00:16:06,180
reads UFO Twitter and sends me really

423
00:16:10,370 --> 00:16:08,699
mean stuff that people say right so

424
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check this out

425
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people said

426
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um like well they never debunk cases can

427
00:16:21,170 --> 00:16:18,360
you tell me George what your daily life

428
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has been like for the last 35 years as

429
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the go-to guy for news reporting do you

430
00:16:28,310 --> 00:16:26,820
ever debunk UFO cases George

431
00:16:30,650 --> 00:16:28,320
um every single day

432
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uh we don't put out cases that we don't

433
00:16:34,970 --> 00:16:32,940
think are legitimate or have at least a

434
00:16:38,990 --> 00:16:34,980
question mark around them I get videos

435
00:16:40,970 --> 00:16:39,000
sent to me every single day uh lights in

436
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a sea of Inky Blackness kind of a thing

437
00:16:45,230 --> 00:16:43,079
something they saw in the backyard uh

438
00:16:47,689 --> 00:16:45,240
videos of strange objects things that

439
00:16:50,449 --> 00:16:47,699
move really fast and every single day I

440
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try to respond to those and often it is

441
00:16:55,009 --> 00:16:52,320
to explain to people why I don't think

442
00:16:56,449 --> 00:16:55,019
it's a legitimate unknown and they don't

443
00:16:58,730 --> 00:16:56,459
like it very much when you tell them

444
00:17:00,590 --> 00:16:58,740
that I try to find a way to gently tell

445
00:17:04,490 --> 00:17:00,600
them that their million dollar UFO video

446
00:17:07,069 --> 00:17:04,500
is has a prosaic explanation we've had

447
00:17:09,350 --> 00:17:07,079
videos said to you and I both of us that

448
00:17:11,809 --> 00:17:09,360
uh show and by some pretty credible

449
00:17:14,210 --> 00:17:11,819
people that show bugs flying towards a

450
00:17:16,549 --> 00:17:14,220
camera or they show planes or they show

451
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clouds or things of that sort prosaic

452
00:17:22,669 --> 00:17:18,780
objects I mean the starting point in

453
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ufology is 90 to 95 of all cases are

454
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explainable if you dig into them enough

455
00:17:29,030 --> 00:17:27,419
and this one might be too but we do bug

456
00:17:30,830 --> 00:17:29,040
stuff every day we just just don't put

457
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it out for people to take a look at it

458
00:17:34,850 --> 00:17:33,059
it's why we thought this is a legitimate

459
00:17:36,529 --> 00:17:34,860
mystery because of the credibility of

460
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the witnesses and because of the videos

461
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and the and the photos that went along

462
00:17:44,330 --> 00:17:41,039
yeah so I I will use a different word I

463
00:17:46,669 --> 00:17:44,340
don't debunk cases every day I try to

464
00:17:48,770 --> 00:17:46,679
provide information so people use that

465
00:17:51,529 --> 00:17:48,780
word it's so crazy right

466
00:17:54,650 --> 00:17:51,539
um I mean I have copy paste emails for

467
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starlink so when I when I get it every

468
00:17:59,570 --> 00:17:56,880
time Starling goes up bam I get a bunch

469
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of emails with videos and you know I try

470
00:18:03,890 --> 00:18:02,100
to write it personally but I just I've

471
00:18:05,630 --> 00:18:03,900
got this paragraph always put in be like

472
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you know keep your eyes to the skies if

473
00:18:10,490 --> 00:18:08,059
if you're shamed about reporting in

474
00:18:12,289 --> 00:18:10,500
anomalous things then we're never going

475
00:18:15,230 --> 00:18:12,299
to get any real cases which we know

476
00:18:17,750 --> 00:18:15,240
there are so I'm with you I think that

477
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people who've made comments like that

478
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they don't really understand what it's

479
00:18:26,270 --> 00:18:23,820
like to to see the casino style Vegas

480
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slot machine that we call our emails

481
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where it's just chaos constant cases

482
00:18:35,270 --> 00:18:32,820
coming in and every damn day I try to

483
00:18:37,730 --> 00:18:35,280
provide at least a few emails that try

484
00:18:39,110 --> 00:18:37,740
to provide some information of why I

485
00:18:41,510 --> 00:18:39,120
think something is anomalous or not

486
00:18:43,789 --> 00:18:41,520
anomalous and again if I can't figure it

487
00:18:45,710 --> 00:18:43,799
out myself that's when we start trying

488
00:18:48,730 --> 00:18:45,720
to reach out to other people now good

489
00:18:52,549 --> 00:18:48,740
cases have multiple angles of video and

490
00:18:56,270 --> 00:18:52,559
testimony and data we didn't have that

491
00:18:58,549 --> 00:18:56,280
for so long with the Mojave UAP case so

492
00:19:00,830 --> 00:18:58,559
we had enough at that point that we

493
00:19:03,409 --> 00:19:00,840
could at least start getting it out and

494
00:19:07,010 --> 00:19:03,419
pushing it but yeah man I think that the

495
00:19:09,890 --> 00:19:07,020
day in the life of the UFO reporter or

496
00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:09,900
journalist or investigator might be less

497
00:19:15,470 --> 00:19:12,960
glamorous or fun than people think you

498
00:19:19,190 --> 00:19:15,480
take a lot of heat

499
00:19:22,010 --> 00:19:19,200
um in this case so we have dozens of U.S

500
00:19:24,350 --> 00:19:22,020
Marines who have familiarity with flares

501
00:19:26,510 --> 00:19:24,360
uh a lot of them some of them who talk

502
00:19:28,190 --> 00:19:26,520
to us that's their primary job they

503
00:19:30,830 --> 00:19:28,200
shoot stuff up in the sky including

504
00:19:32,510 --> 00:19:30,840
flares they're not just a you know a

505
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casual Observer driving by on the

506
00:19:37,190 --> 00:19:34,679
freeway it's their job you know in this

507
00:19:38,750 --> 00:19:37,200
case I I've seen people argue well

508
00:19:40,250 --> 00:19:38,760
they're not really trained observers

509
00:19:42,409 --> 00:19:40,260
well they are trained and in this case

510
00:19:44,750 --> 00:19:42,419
they were observers and they do have

511
00:19:46,909 --> 00:19:44,760
familiarity with the technology that was

512
00:19:48,169 --> 00:19:46,919
being displayed if those are flares you

513
00:19:50,090 --> 00:19:48,179
would think these guys would know their

514
00:19:52,130 --> 00:19:50,100
flares they see flares pretty much every

515
00:19:54,650 --> 00:19:52,140
day especially when they're on training

516
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exercises at the biggest Marine training

517
00:20:00,049 --> 00:19:57,600
base in the world oh totally and I think

518
00:20:02,570 --> 00:20:00,059
that the range of knowledge as an

519
00:20:03,830 --> 00:20:02,580
observer you know it even varies within

520
00:20:05,990 --> 00:20:03,840
the Marines I mean you have some people

521
00:20:09,049 --> 00:20:06,000
that are more trained and less trained

522
00:20:11,090 --> 00:20:09,059
but absolutely you know number of the

523
00:20:13,430 --> 00:20:11,100
people that I've spoken with were

524
00:20:16,190 --> 00:20:13,440
adamant that this was not something

525
00:20:19,250 --> 00:20:16,200
typical that I under they understand the

526
00:20:21,890 --> 00:20:19,260
arguments but what they saw and

527
00:20:24,350 --> 00:20:21,900
experienced was not what you know the

528
00:20:26,270 --> 00:20:24,360
some of the population is kind of

529
00:20:28,669 --> 00:20:26,280
writing it off as so I want to hear them

530
00:20:31,250 --> 00:20:28,679
out but first just let's really talk

531
00:20:34,190 --> 00:20:31,260
about the three points that you know do

532
00:20:36,529 --> 00:20:34,200
support a flare hypothesis

533
00:20:39,590 --> 00:20:36,539
um discontinuous arrangement of Lights

534
00:20:41,450 --> 00:20:39,600
the idea that they're not stuck to like

535
00:20:44,150 --> 00:20:41,460
the body of something that you can see

536
00:20:47,210 --> 00:20:44,160
movement over time and you know with

537
00:20:50,029 --> 00:20:47,220
with a bunch of the videos I do see some

538
00:20:51,590 --> 00:20:50,039
change in the orientation I don't know

539
00:20:53,270 --> 00:20:51,600
everything to make of that but I want to

540
00:20:54,650 --> 00:20:53,280
acknowledge that as something that that

541
00:20:56,870 --> 00:20:54,660
we're looking into and other people

542
00:21:01,130 --> 00:20:56,880
should continue looking into

543
00:21:03,289 --> 00:21:01,140
um The Descent so all all of the Marines

544
00:21:04,730 --> 00:21:03,299
that I've spoken with and Marines are

545
00:21:06,110 --> 00:21:04,740
Straight Shooters like they just want to

546
00:21:07,730 --> 00:21:06,120
know the truth too no matter what they

547
00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:07,740
think they saw they want to know the

548
00:21:12,470 --> 00:21:10,559
truth you know the majority of them said

549
00:21:16,190 --> 00:21:12,480
it just hovered

550
00:21:18,590 --> 00:21:16,200
just hovered there now some would say no

551
00:21:20,630 --> 00:21:18,600
I could see a slow maybe a slow movement

552
00:21:22,850 --> 00:21:20,640
but the majority is that they were

553
00:21:25,370 --> 00:21:22,860
stationary but I did see compelling

554
00:21:27,049 --> 00:21:25,380
evidence that there was some dissent so

555
00:21:30,230 --> 00:21:27,059
that does lead me to look towards the

556
00:21:31,870 --> 00:21:30,240
flare hypothesis as being proper and um

557
00:21:34,010 --> 00:21:31,880
then you mentioned that the green lights

558
00:21:37,070 --> 00:21:34,020
video which is really the least

559
00:21:38,870 --> 00:21:37,080
compelling to me because we have no time

560
00:21:40,909 --> 00:21:38,880
stamp and no date stamping but that

561
00:21:42,710 --> 00:21:40,919
would solve it but no no one solved it

562
00:21:45,610 --> 00:21:42,720
yet so I just want to acknowledge those

563
00:21:47,930 --> 00:21:45,620
George and um now I want to get into

564
00:21:50,029 --> 00:21:47,940
what people actually said who are there

565
00:21:52,010 --> 00:21:50,039
though and I think we should play a clip

566
00:21:54,169 --> 00:21:52,020
and talk about some some of the things

567
00:21:56,090 --> 00:21:54,179
that they are knowledgeable about and

568
00:21:58,010 --> 00:21:56,100
what they experienced but just before we

569
00:21:59,810 --> 00:21:58,020
hear from these additional Witnesses I

570
00:22:02,090 --> 00:21:59,820
should point out a little bit further

571
00:22:03,950 --> 00:22:02,100
about what our game plan was for this we

572
00:22:06,529 --> 00:22:03,960
wanted to release these videos these

573
00:22:08,750 --> 00:22:06,539
images in hopes that other sources would

574
00:22:13,070 --> 00:22:08,760
come forward other Marines knowing how

575
00:22:14,870 --> 00:22:13,080
UFO World works we expected some bunking

576
00:22:16,789 --> 00:22:14,880
we expected some attacks on The

577
00:22:18,350 --> 00:22:16,799
credibility of the witnesses maybe on

578
00:22:21,470 --> 00:22:18,360
the Integrity of the Marines themselves

579
00:22:23,750 --> 00:22:21,480
in order to get them motivated to get

580
00:22:25,490 --> 00:22:23,760
the attention of other Marines who were

581
00:22:26,990 --> 00:22:25,500
not talking to us who had not come

582
00:22:29,090 --> 00:22:27,000
forward who might have additional

583
00:22:30,830 --> 00:22:29,100
information for example the guys who

584
00:22:32,690 --> 00:22:30,840
shot the extra flares that came

585
00:22:36,169 --> 00:22:32,700
afterward we wanted to talk to those

586
00:22:38,029 --> 00:22:36,179
guys yeah fact um I mean you you said

587
00:22:40,070 --> 00:22:38,039
that I said that in the first episode in

588
00:22:42,770 --> 00:22:40,080
the release so look again I'm really

589
00:22:44,270 --> 00:22:42,780
grateful for the constructive things

590
00:22:46,310 --> 00:22:44,280
that have occurred through the

591
00:22:48,590 --> 00:22:46,320
investigation or this kind of strange

592
00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:48,600
investigation experiment

593
00:22:52,130 --> 00:22:50,400
um but I think we should just now hear

594
00:22:54,529 --> 00:22:52,140
from the people that were there you

595
00:22:55,909 --> 00:22:54,539
could hear what they think you know

596
00:22:58,070 --> 00:22:55,919
people that have different levels of

597
00:23:00,590 --> 00:22:58,080
expertise and just were there so let's

598
00:23:02,690 --> 00:23:00,600
play uh One Clip now and then we'll go

599
00:23:05,450 --> 00:23:02,700
through some of what we heard

600
00:23:09,710 --> 00:23:05,460
my role was infantry and you were there

601
00:23:14,330 --> 00:23:09,720
on April 20th 2021 you were there that

602
00:23:15,830 --> 00:23:14,340
night yes and you saw it yes I saw it

603
00:23:17,630 --> 00:23:15,840
appear and disappear

604
00:23:19,630 --> 00:23:17,640
well first of all how many people do you

605
00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:19,640
think saw this

606
00:23:25,730 --> 00:23:24,480
uh so there there's like 15 people in my

607
00:23:28,070 --> 00:23:25,740
Hooch

608
00:23:30,830 --> 00:23:28,080
and the one the hooches there's a bunch

609
00:23:32,570 --> 00:23:30,840
of people there's like 10 Gucci's in a

610
00:23:34,789 --> 00:23:32,580
line with people in it so a lot of

611
00:23:37,010 --> 00:23:34,799
people saw it yeah I heard about 50

612
00:23:40,130 --> 00:23:37,020
Witnesses at Camp Wilson alone

613
00:23:41,750 --> 00:23:40,140
yeah how were you first alerted to the

614
00:23:47,149 --> 00:23:41,760
fact it was outside like how did you

615
00:23:51,529 --> 00:23:49,370
story time

616
00:23:53,990 --> 00:23:51,539
disappeared

617
00:23:56,870 --> 00:23:54,000
I remember we saw it and then I would

618
00:24:02,149 --> 00:23:58,789
they really they were freaking out a

619
00:24:06,830 --> 00:24:04,310
yeah Noah knew what it was

620
00:24:09,289 --> 00:24:06,840
and how long would you suspect that it

621
00:24:10,909 --> 00:24:09,299
was there what's the longest length that

622
00:24:14,690 --> 00:24:10,919
it was there

623
00:24:17,570 --> 00:24:14,700
30 to 35 minutes really

624
00:24:20,330 --> 00:24:17,580
yeah it was there for a hot minute a lot

625
00:24:21,710 --> 00:24:20,340
of people are saying that these are

626
00:24:23,810 --> 00:24:21,720
flares

627
00:24:27,110 --> 00:24:23,820
no they weren't

628
00:24:29,630 --> 00:24:27,120
definitely 100 not flares

629
00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:29,640
I think it was crap

630
00:24:36,289 --> 00:24:32,400
it was weird so this was unlike anything

631
00:24:38,810 --> 00:24:36,299
you've seen before or since oh yeah yeah

632
00:24:42,169 --> 00:24:38,820
first time seeing something like that

633
00:24:44,570 --> 00:24:42,179
yeah it definitely looked like a craft

634
00:24:46,610 --> 00:24:44,580
was there any sound

635
00:24:49,130 --> 00:24:46,620
no sound at all

636
00:24:51,710 --> 00:24:49,140
it was kind of eerie

637
00:24:54,470 --> 00:24:51,720
and if you had to just guesstimate can

638
00:24:56,330 --> 00:24:54,480
you give me an estimate size the

639
00:24:58,490 --> 00:24:56,340
mountain was pretty big it was pretty

640
00:25:02,149 --> 00:24:58,500
much like the same length as the top of

641
00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:02,159
the bow and so I'm saying like

642
00:25:06,350 --> 00:25:04,799
at least

643
00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:06,360
75

644
00:25:13,010 --> 00:25:10,080
yards like almost a little more than

645
00:25:14,590 --> 00:25:13,020
half full field I would say yeah I keep

646
00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:14,600
hearing that

647
00:25:20,149 --> 00:25:17,760
and you still don't know what it was

648
00:25:22,010 --> 00:25:20,159
no I just speculate that it was

649
00:25:26,390 --> 00:25:22,020
definitely uh UFO

650
00:25:32,210 --> 00:25:28,190
so I identified

651
00:25:34,430 --> 00:25:32,220
it wasn't some military object or craft

652
00:25:35,990 --> 00:25:34,440
no no

653
00:25:37,430 --> 00:25:36,000
I was the whites would have been

654
00:25:40,190 --> 00:25:37,440
blinking and I would have been moving

655
00:25:43,310 --> 00:25:40,200
and I was not doing any of that

656
00:25:46,190 --> 00:25:43,320
the night was pretty crazy why there was

657
00:25:47,990 --> 00:25:46,200
all boys of eagles helicopters

658
00:25:50,690 --> 00:25:48,000
it's not and you'd really see happen

659
00:25:53,090 --> 00:25:50,700
there so that was unusual the response

660
00:25:55,669 --> 00:25:53,100
was unusual

661
00:25:57,529 --> 00:25:55,679
there was like a convoy that night of

662
00:26:01,190 --> 00:25:57,539
vehicles heading that way

663
00:26:03,950 --> 00:26:01,200
had to be at least like 50 to 70 trucks

664
00:26:06,350 --> 00:26:03,960
those huge Convoy and then all night

665
00:26:07,850 --> 00:26:06,360
long there's helicopters is flying

666
00:26:09,769 --> 00:26:07,860
around everywhere

667
00:26:11,690 --> 00:26:09,779
it was very unusual

668
00:26:13,310 --> 00:26:11,700
even though that was part of your you're

669
00:26:15,230 --> 00:26:13,320
there for training missions and there's

670
00:26:17,690 --> 00:26:15,240
a known training Mission going on there

671
00:26:19,789 --> 00:26:17,700
at that time this is still unusual

672
00:26:22,909 --> 00:26:19,799
oh yeah it was definitely very unusual

673
00:26:25,730 --> 00:26:22,919
the response was unusual yeah what's

674
00:26:29,090 --> 00:26:25,740
your interpretation of that response

675
00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:31,430
see if they could find it

676
00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:33,360
I don't know

677
00:26:37,970 --> 00:26:35,520
it was pretty wild

678
00:26:40,310 --> 00:26:37,980
it's definitely wasn't players

679
00:26:43,549 --> 00:26:40,320
I a couple things jump out at me there

680
00:26:46,250 --> 00:26:43,559
this guy is saying the lights could be

681
00:26:47,870 --> 00:26:46,260
seen for 30 to 35 minutes that's that's

682
00:26:50,269 --> 00:26:47,880
contrary to what a lot of the witnesses

683
00:26:52,490 --> 00:26:50,279
said who estimated it was 10 minutes if

684
00:26:54,590 --> 00:26:52,500
it really was up there for 30 35 minutes

685
00:26:56,750 --> 00:26:54,600
that's not any kind of flare that we've

686
00:26:58,850 --> 00:26:56,760
ever known about before maybe we've got

687
00:27:00,590 --> 00:26:58,860
some new kind of flares but if it really

688
00:27:02,210 --> 00:27:00,600
was that long

689
00:27:04,490 --> 00:27:02,220
um that's a problem it's hard to explain

690
00:27:06,950 --> 00:27:04,500
that of course the guy could be wrong I

691
00:27:09,529 --> 00:27:06,960
guess uh and the estimation of how long

692
00:27:11,090 --> 00:27:09,539
it was he he witnessed it because we've

693
00:27:13,549 --> 00:27:11,100
we've seen there are conflicting

694
00:27:15,350 --> 00:27:13,559
versions of that story right yeah so

695
00:27:17,990 --> 00:27:15,360
I've only got

696
00:27:20,450 --> 00:27:18,000
um at this point provable about 10

697
00:27:22,970 --> 00:27:20,460
minutes of of timeline of footage I

698
00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:22,980
believe 10 minutes from the metadata but

699
00:27:26,450 --> 00:27:25,200
remember it was it was up there and a

700
00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:26,460
few people were just watching that

701
00:27:32,090 --> 00:27:29,279
they're assuming it's flares for a good

702
00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:32,100
period of time he's not the only one

703
00:27:39,470 --> 00:27:35,279
that referenced that 30 minute time

704
00:27:41,409 --> 00:27:39,480
frame so look they're like us they're

705
00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:41,419
seeing it at night first just in the sky

706
00:27:45,710 --> 00:27:43,679
they see things all the time they assume

707
00:27:47,210 --> 00:27:45,720
it's flares but then they realize it's

708
00:27:49,370 --> 00:27:47,220
different and they're trying to figure

709
00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:49,380
out how it's different so that that's a

710
00:27:53,870 --> 00:27:51,360
good point and I just don't know and

711
00:27:56,690 --> 00:27:53,880
sometimes time look this is two years

712
00:27:59,269 --> 00:27:56,700
ago for this guy almost you know so at

713
00:28:01,190 --> 00:27:59,279
this point we're not sure on that time

714
00:28:03,529 --> 00:28:01,200
frame but it's an interesting point and

715
00:28:06,409 --> 00:28:03,539
he wasn't the only person that told me

716
00:28:08,149 --> 00:28:06,419
about 30 minutes for those that saw the

717
00:28:10,130 --> 00:28:08,159
whole thing a lot of them were in their

718
00:28:12,590 --> 00:28:10,140
their Barracks or their hooches right

719
00:28:14,450 --> 00:28:12,600
until they they came out

720
00:28:16,669 --> 00:28:14,460
that the fact that he says there was no

721
00:28:19,669 --> 00:28:16,679
sound absolutely no sound that would

722
00:28:22,730 --> 00:28:19,679
make sense if these were flares that

723
00:28:25,070 --> 00:28:22,740
were 18 miles away at the 210 or

724
00:28:26,870 --> 00:28:25,080
whatever that uh January is you know it

725
00:28:29,330 --> 00:28:26,880
also would explain why they didn't see

726
00:28:32,690 --> 00:28:29,340
any smoke from flares assuming they were

727
00:28:34,730 --> 00:28:32,700
flares too far away to see smoke too far

728
00:28:36,769 --> 00:28:34,740
away to hear sound that would make sense

729
00:28:38,269 --> 00:28:36,779
these guys swear it was a lot closer

730
00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:38,279
though I mean all the witnesses say it

731
00:28:42,590 --> 00:28:39,840
was a lot closer we should point out

732
00:28:44,570 --> 00:28:42,600
there are three mountains in ranges in

733
00:28:46,970 --> 00:28:44,580
between where Camp Wilson is and that

734
00:28:49,430 --> 00:28:46,980
training area where the exercise took

735
00:28:52,250 --> 00:28:49,440
place with the green video right yeah

736
00:28:54,230 --> 00:28:52,260
but we don't know for sure that it was

737
00:28:55,850 --> 00:28:54,240
there that's what's written on the on

738
00:28:59,149 --> 00:28:55,860
the site but we don't have the the

739
00:29:01,669 --> 00:28:59,159
metadata and it's a mishmash of footage

740
00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:01,679
but some of it we know is right from

741
00:29:06,769 --> 00:29:03,120
that little you know when they're in the

742
00:29:09,710 --> 00:29:06,779
little town uh at range 210 but yeah

743
00:29:11,570 --> 00:29:09,720
that's why this is like you know this

744
00:29:14,149 --> 00:29:11,580
it's an open case that's why we're

745
00:29:15,409 --> 00:29:14,159
trying to get more information uh I it's

746
00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:15,419
interesting what he said now other

747
00:29:20,630 --> 00:29:18,000
Witnesses had more to say they had more

748
00:29:22,430 --> 00:29:20,640
to say about about smoke and about the

749
00:29:23,570 --> 00:29:22,440
color of flares and the nature of the

750
00:29:25,549 --> 00:29:23,580
light

751
00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:25,559
um and and about the response so let's

752
00:29:30,769 --> 00:29:28,320
now hear just real briefly from another

753
00:29:33,110 --> 00:29:30,779
witness that that came forward and and

754
00:29:34,909 --> 00:29:33,120
just talked with us let me play that and

755
00:29:36,169 --> 00:29:34,919
let's hear what that that Marine had to

756
00:29:38,870 --> 00:29:36,179
say

757
00:29:40,190 --> 00:29:38,880
was in for five years I'm out now I'm

758
00:29:43,010 --> 00:29:40,200
right now I'm just going to school and

759
00:29:44,210 --> 00:29:43,020
working I work a engineering company in

760
00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:44,220
all of your time in the military the

761
00:29:48,769 --> 00:29:46,320
five years did you have a specialty or

762
00:29:51,110 --> 00:29:48,779
anything that you did by trade I was a

763
00:29:52,909 --> 00:29:51,120
Data Systems technician I worked on uh

764
00:29:55,070 --> 00:29:52,919
all the communications equipment and

765
00:29:58,490 --> 00:29:55,080
stuff that the ground guys used I did

766
00:30:00,110 --> 00:29:58,500
that and I operated it too for example

767
00:30:01,549 --> 00:30:00,120
you know the guys running around in the

768
00:30:03,590 --> 00:30:01,559
movies with the antennas they're always

769
00:30:05,090 --> 00:30:03,600
like calling it up

770
00:30:06,830 --> 00:30:05,100
they're the ones communicating with the

771
00:30:09,610 --> 00:30:06,840
higher ups and you know doing that kind

772
00:30:14,710 --> 00:30:09,620
of stuff like that you know April 20th

773
00:30:17,630 --> 00:30:14,720
2021 about 8 20 p.m as far as this event

774
00:30:20,510 --> 00:30:17,640
walked me through it we were out in 29

775
00:30:22,010 --> 00:30:20,520
Palms if I recall correctly I was one of

776
00:30:23,269 --> 00:30:22,020
the first people I walked outside and I

777
00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:23,279
was like what the [\h__\h] is that that was

778
00:30:26,930 --> 00:30:25,440
weird and I was like dude that's when I

779
00:30:29,330 --> 00:30:26,940
pulled my head inside

780
00:30:31,130 --> 00:30:29,340
and I was like Hey guys uh there's like

781
00:30:32,269 --> 00:30:31,140
some weird stuff from the sky you guys

782
00:30:34,250 --> 00:30:32,279
should come check this out and that's

783
00:30:35,570 --> 00:30:34,260
when everyone came outside and then like

784
00:30:38,450 --> 00:30:35,580
in one of the pictures I sent you you

785
00:30:40,190 --> 00:30:38,460
can see just rows of like those cans

786
00:30:41,330 --> 00:30:40,200
that we were sleeping in just rows of

787
00:30:43,850 --> 00:30:41,340
people coming out and like looking up

788
00:30:46,970 --> 00:30:43,860
into the sky I've heard different

789
00:30:49,669 --> 00:30:46,980
timelines of like how long it was there

790
00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:49,679
in the sky can you tell me for how long

791
00:30:55,370 --> 00:30:52,320
you saw it in the sky

792
00:30:57,889 --> 00:30:55,380
I was outside for at least 10-15 minutes

793
00:31:00,590 --> 00:30:57,899
I know that I wasn't outside like the

794
00:31:02,750 --> 00:31:00,600
whole time did you see when they shot

795
00:31:05,269 --> 00:31:02,760
flares up and they had those Lumen

796
00:31:06,649 --> 00:31:05,279
flares yeah for sure yeah there's one of

797
00:31:09,230 --> 00:31:06,659
the pictures I sent you there's flares

798
00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:09,240
in the sky with the lights behind it one

799
00:31:14,810 --> 00:31:11,760
of the kids he goes you can see a shape

800
00:31:17,870 --> 00:31:14,820
he said about it not just being lights

801
00:31:20,269 --> 00:31:17,880
but seeing like the shape of a body of a

802
00:31:22,850 --> 00:31:20,279
craft did you see that

803
00:31:24,769 --> 00:31:22,860
yeah yeah it just it though they were

804
00:31:26,690 --> 00:31:24,779
stagnant they weren't moving they were

805
00:31:28,610 --> 00:31:26,700
very in place

806
00:31:30,529 --> 00:31:28,620
that's what was so weird to us is that

807
00:31:33,289 --> 00:31:30,539
it was just kind of just like

808
00:31:35,450 --> 00:31:33,299
there did they drop like flares did they

809
00:31:37,669 --> 00:31:35,460
descend like flares or did it stay and

810
00:31:40,190 --> 00:31:37,679
hover in place no not not at all that's

811
00:31:42,289 --> 00:31:40,200
not what these lights were doing

812
00:31:45,470 --> 00:31:42,299
the lights were pretty stagnant in the

813
00:31:49,130 --> 00:31:45,480
sky and not moving anywhere

814
00:31:51,649 --> 00:31:49,140
size if you had to guess it was a big

815
00:31:53,810 --> 00:31:51,659
object whatever it was it was it was it

816
00:31:55,549 --> 00:31:53,820
had some Mass to it it wasn't just you

817
00:31:58,310 --> 00:31:55,559
know some freaking small

818
00:32:00,289 --> 00:31:58,320
unmanned thing flying in the sky

819
00:32:01,970 --> 00:32:00,299
I mean with the distance and stuff it

820
00:32:05,029 --> 00:32:01,980
could have been as big as a freaking

821
00:32:07,789 --> 00:32:05,039
football field honestly was this like

822
00:32:10,549 --> 00:32:07,799
something you've ever seen before

823
00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:13,669
were those uh do we know for sure if the

824
00:32:18,049 --> 00:32:16,080
extra flares that were shot up were shot

825
00:32:20,149 --> 00:32:18,059
up in order to illuminate something that

826
00:32:23,149 --> 00:32:20,159
was right there in that same Valley

827
00:32:26,450 --> 00:32:23,159
that's the big question that's what we

828
00:32:28,610 --> 00:32:26,460
we don't know that's the Assumption of

829
00:32:31,789 --> 00:32:28,620
the Marines at this point because of

830
00:32:34,669 --> 00:32:31,799
that reaction again we don't know how

831
00:32:38,630 --> 00:32:34,679
far away the the things that the Marines

832
00:32:41,210 --> 00:32:38,640
saw that that is anomalous to them we do

833
00:32:43,310 --> 00:32:41,220
not know the distance they're maximum

834
00:32:45,649 --> 00:32:43,320
across the board every single one I've

835
00:32:47,210 --> 00:32:45,659
talked with their maximum distance it

836
00:32:49,370 --> 00:32:47,220
appeared to be right over that first

837
00:32:51,350 --> 00:32:49,380
Mountain Ridge and so we're making

838
00:32:52,850 --> 00:32:51,360
assumptions that something was fired 18

839
00:32:55,549 --> 00:32:52,860
miles away that might have looked

840
00:32:57,350 --> 00:32:55,559
similar but we can find that out for

841
00:32:59,870 --> 00:32:57,360
sure because every ordinance is labeled

842
00:33:01,330 --> 00:32:59,880
and and time stamped when it's done

843
00:33:04,490 --> 00:33:01,340
there's a way we're going to find out

844
00:33:06,610 --> 00:33:04,500
but those Lumen flares those

845
00:33:11,029 --> 00:33:06,620
illumination flares they lasted about

846
00:33:13,310 --> 00:33:11,039
they can last between six 45 seconds to

847
00:33:15,470 --> 00:33:13,320
maybe up towards three minutes these

848
00:33:18,049 --> 00:33:15,480
lasted about a minute is what I

849
00:33:20,149 --> 00:33:18,059
understand so they believe that this

850
00:33:22,610 --> 00:33:20,159
response was well you're going to hear

851
00:33:26,210 --> 00:33:22,620
the next witness what what some people

852
00:33:28,669 --> 00:33:26,220
believe but it was to illuminate

853
00:33:31,389 --> 00:33:28,679
the object is what is what they would

854
00:33:34,850 --> 00:33:31,399
call it I don't know George I don't know

855
00:33:36,830 --> 00:33:34,860
military Witnesses in general in UFO

856
00:33:38,769 --> 00:33:36,840
World they don't do so well we don't

857
00:33:41,690 --> 00:33:38,779
trust them at all you know everybody

858
00:33:44,269 --> 00:33:41,700
assumes that military eyewitnesses who

859
00:33:47,029 --> 00:33:44,279
are there who know tactics operations

860
00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:47,039
equipment guys who work with flares

861
00:33:52,009 --> 00:33:48,960
almost every day they have to be

862
00:33:54,409 --> 00:33:52,019
discounted and non-military uh experts

863
00:33:57,110 --> 00:33:54,419
who appoint themselves to determine the

864
00:33:58,850 --> 00:33:57,120
truth or accuracy of these claims always

865
00:34:01,190 --> 00:33:58,860
seem to know more than the military guys

866
00:34:03,230 --> 00:34:01,200
who actually are there on the ground and

867
00:34:05,029 --> 00:34:03,240
who work with this stuff every day I can

868
00:34:07,130 --> 00:34:05,039
see why some of the Marines that you're

869
00:34:08,930 --> 00:34:07,140
now talking to were pretty ticked off

870
00:34:10,070 --> 00:34:08,940
about being told that they're stupid

871
00:34:12,950 --> 00:34:10,080
they don't know what they're seeing

872
00:34:16,250 --> 00:34:12,960
right yeah yeah definitely but we see

873
00:34:19,790 --> 00:34:16,260
that all the time man is a dismissal of

874
00:34:21,889 --> 00:34:19,800
certain you know reports and the stigma

875
00:34:24,710 --> 00:34:21,899
associated with it when you're looking

876
00:34:26,690 --> 00:34:24,720
to find a type of answer it's much

877
00:34:31,070 --> 00:34:26,700
easier to find that type of answer sir

878
00:34:34,250 --> 00:34:31,080
again the work is really trying to

879
00:34:36,470 --> 00:34:34,260
definitively resolve something and so

880
00:34:38,149 --> 00:34:36,480
you have to take all of the information

881
00:34:40,190 --> 00:34:38,159
or you're going to miss something and

882
00:34:43,669 --> 00:34:40,200
and more importantly you're going to

883
00:34:46,430 --> 00:34:43,679
miss future reports if you create an

884
00:34:47,990 --> 00:34:46,440
atmosphere where we're military people

885
00:34:50,270 --> 00:34:48,000
they don't want to report it up the

886
00:34:52,909 --> 00:34:50,280
chain of command uh to their superiors

887
00:34:55,609 --> 00:34:52,919
uh if you create an atmosphere where

888
00:34:57,770 --> 00:34:55,619
they don't want to uh be mocked because

889
00:34:59,390 --> 00:34:57,780
they're not sure what they saw you're

890
00:35:01,250 --> 00:34:59,400
going to have a big problem I'll tell

891
00:35:03,230 --> 00:35:01,260
you something here George and I know

892
00:35:07,930 --> 00:35:03,240
you're aware of it you and I have

893
00:35:12,290 --> 00:35:07,940
recently heard that Pilots are being

894
00:35:15,230 --> 00:35:12,300
encouraged to scrub their data when it

895
00:35:17,210 --> 00:35:15,240
comes to anomalies that are encountered

896
00:35:19,790 --> 00:35:17,220
during missions and there's a few

897
00:35:22,730 --> 00:35:19,800
reasons why I can assume some and I've

898
00:35:25,550 --> 00:35:22,740
heard some but we heard that like from

899
00:35:28,010 --> 00:35:25,560
high up so so the question is

900
00:35:30,890 --> 00:35:28,020
are they being told to eliminate

901
00:35:33,290 --> 00:35:30,900
information and data because of stigma

902
00:35:35,990 --> 00:35:33,300
or is it because their superiors want to

903
00:35:37,730 --> 00:35:36,000
stay on mission for deployment and that

904
00:35:39,710 --> 00:35:37,740
this would be reports and it'd have to

905
00:35:41,810 --> 00:35:39,720
slow it down it really puts you in this

906
00:35:45,230 --> 00:35:41,820
position a lot of our contacts and

907
00:35:48,290 --> 00:35:45,240
sources within intelligence agencies

908
00:35:50,930 --> 00:35:48,300
they'll tell us that even the balloon of

909
00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:50,940
palooza that we know for sure that there

910
00:35:55,069 --> 00:35:52,560
was a Chinese balloon you and I called

911
00:35:58,310 --> 00:35:55,079
that it was a thing but the ones over

912
00:36:01,849 --> 00:35:58,320
Alaska or other ones that they're that

913
00:36:04,970 --> 00:36:01,859
they're much more uh ambiguous in the

914
00:36:06,829 --> 00:36:04,980
sense that Senate and and Congress and

915
00:36:08,810 --> 00:36:06,839
and just basically the people that

916
00:36:11,329 --> 00:36:08,820
should be investigating this they're not

917
00:36:13,609 --> 00:36:11,339
being given any data or footage I've

918
00:36:16,849 --> 00:36:13,619
heard this over and over and over again

919
00:36:19,849 --> 00:36:16,859
so for me the biggest problem is look

920
00:36:22,670 --> 00:36:19,859
everybody's credible until you can show

921
00:36:25,310 --> 00:36:22,680
them maybe what they saw wasn't that the

922
00:36:28,490 --> 00:36:25,320
bigger problem is the withholding of

923
00:36:31,910 --> 00:36:28,500
data people not seeing cases through to

924
00:36:34,310 --> 00:36:31,920
the end and not doing proper analysis

925
00:36:37,609 --> 00:36:34,320
because they're based upon their own

926
00:36:39,650 --> 00:36:37,619
personal agendas that's the real crime

927
00:36:41,450 --> 00:36:39,660
in my opinion yeah and it's part of the

928
00:36:43,970 --> 00:36:41,460
reason we've come forward with this case

929
00:36:46,609 --> 00:36:43,980
is because it never went anywhere uh you

930
00:36:48,770 --> 00:36:46,619
know a lot of Marines between 50 and 80

931
00:36:50,390 --> 00:36:48,780
we know for sure saw this thing they

932
00:36:52,430 --> 00:36:50,400
thought it was anomalous they took video

933
00:36:54,589 --> 00:36:52,440
took photos of it but there was no

934
00:36:56,510 --> 00:36:54,599
nobody came asking them about it nobody

935
00:36:58,670 --> 00:36:56,520
investigated it did not go up the chain

936
00:37:00,050 --> 00:36:58,680
of command we were not surprised at all

937
00:37:03,050 --> 00:37:00,060
that the Department of Defense

938
00:37:05,810 --> 00:37:03,060
spokesperson on UAP would go ahead and

939
00:37:08,690 --> 00:37:05,820
issue a dismissive sort of a weasel word

940
00:37:10,670 --> 00:37:08,700
kind of a statement that says well we

941
00:37:12,349 --> 00:37:10,680
had assets in the air at this base on

942
00:37:14,270 --> 00:37:12,359
that night well what night do you not

943
00:37:16,190 --> 00:37:14,280
have assets in the air it didn't really

944
00:37:18,050 --> 00:37:16,200
address whether the videos that we've

945
00:37:20,630 --> 00:37:18,060
shown were the same ones that were shown

946
00:37:23,030 --> 00:37:20,640
in that DOD uh thing that was on the

947
00:37:25,490 --> 00:37:23,040
website it doesn't answer that we knew

948
00:37:28,130 --> 00:37:25,500
that this the spokesperson would take

949
00:37:30,589 --> 00:37:28,140
this position and it does not encourage

950
00:37:33,050 --> 00:37:30,599
Marines Sailors Airmen to come forward

951
00:37:35,150 --> 00:37:33,060
people like Dave fraver who flew one of

952
00:37:36,230 --> 00:37:35,160
the best pilots in the world is told

953
00:37:38,870 --> 00:37:36,240
that he doesn't know what he's talking

954
00:37:41,390 --> 00:37:38,880
about what he saw in the air radar guys

955
00:37:43,970 --> 00:37:41,400
like Kevin Day who spent a career

956
00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:43,980
learning their jobs and becoming experts

957
00:37:47,690 --> 00:37:46,079
in this on one of the most advanced

958
00:37:50,150 --> 00:37:47,700
warships in the world he doesn't know

959
00:37:51,829 --> 00:37:50,160
what he's doing the West Coast orbs

960
00:37:54,170 --> 00:37:51,839
those things that we saw that were

961
00:37:55,790 --> 00:37:54,180
swarming uh 10 different warships oh no

962
00:37:56,810 --> 00:37:55,800
no those Sailors were completely wrong

963
00:37:59,630 --> 00:37:56,820
they don't know what they're talking

964
00:38:01,250 --> 00:37:59,640
about and in this case as well we would

965
00:38:03,410 --> 00:38:01,260
like these things to be investigated

966
00:38:05,329 --> 00:38:03,420
that's why Arrow was created that's why

967
00:38:08,450 --> 00:38:05,339
it's predecessor aimsog was created

968
00:38:10,430 --> 00:38:08,460
while the UAP task force was created DOD

969
00:38:11,930 --> 00:38:10,440
keeps saying we want transparency on

970
00:38:14,270 --> 00:38:11,940
this and then they act completely

971
00:38:17,210 --> 00:38:14,280
opposite and dismiss that the cases that

972
00:38:19,550 --> 00:38:17,220
do do come to them through US yeah and

973
00:38:22,310 --> 00:38:19,560
one of the craziest examples that that

974
00:38:25,310 --> 00:38:22,320
we've seen of that is you and I reported

975
00:38:28,069 --> 00:38:25,320
and we broke the story with all sorts of

976
00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:28,079
sensor data from thermal to infrared to

977
00:38:33,890 --> 00:38:31,440
deck footage to eyewitness testimony of

978
00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:33,900
the 2019 swarms of 10 of our Navy

979
00:38:39,230 --> 00:38:37,200
warships but what people were trying to

980
00:38:40,490 --> 00:38:39,240
do and it was really kind of sneaky well

981
00:38:43,130 --> 00:38:40,500
first of all you got the Department of

982
00:38:45,829 --> 00:38:43,140
Defense which is we have like apparently

983
00:38:48,770 --> 00:38:45,839
we are the the quick response bonders

984
00:38:51,770 --> 00:38:48,780
people respond to us quick Susan Goff

985
00:38:54,829 --> 00:38:51,780
like that anything to try to you know

986
00:38:56,390 --> 00:38:54,839
kind of diminish our reporting on this

987
00:38:58,849 --> 00:38:56,400
is nothing to see her move on it's

988
00:39:01,329 --> 00:38:58,859
really strange to me people on the

989
00:39:03,829 --> 00:39:01,339
inside really encourage us to continue

990
00:39:06,290 --> 00:39:03,839
you know with our reporting on this kind

991
00:39:09,890 --> 00:39:06,300
of stuff but that 2019 event it really

992
00:39:12,410 --> 00:39:09,900
struck me when they tried to isolate one

993
00:39:14,690 --> 00:39:12,420
little thing and say none of the rest

994
00:39:19,310 --> 00:39:14,700
happened I mean that that's what they

995
00:39:22,069 --> 00:39:19,320
were trying to do is make every person

996
00:39:25,130 --> 00:39:22,079
involved every piece of evidence less

997
00:39:27,530 --> 00:39:25,140
valuable by trying to attack one tiny

998
00:39:29,990 --> 00:39:27,540
thing we saw that with the report I

999
00:39:32,750 --> 00:39:30,000
think it was uh that New York Post that

1000
00:39:34,670 --> 00:39:32,760
they came out saying case solved these

1001
00:39:36,770 --> 00:39:34,680
were Chinese drones launched off of the

1002
00:39:39,530 --> 00:39:36,780
bass straight in in episode number two

1003
00:39:43,609 --> 00:39:39,540
of weaponized with uh guts John

1004
00:39:45,829 --> 00:39:43,619
Gutierrez man we broke it down we broke

1005
00:39:48,410 --> 00:39:45,839
down the evidence but you saw how the uh

1006
00:39:50,390 --> 00:39:48,420
certain elements within the media try to

1007
00:39:51,950 --> 00:39:50,400
like shame you for putting this out and

1008
00:39:56,329 --> 00:39:51,960
then they they latch onto something that

1009
00:39:58,730 --> 00:39:56,339
is false it is patently false that these

1010
00:40:01,790 --> 00:39:58,740
are are launched from the bass straight

1011
00:40:05,690 --> 00:40:01,800
in 2019 did that solved the case we got

1012
00:40:08,270 --> 00:40:05,700
the guy on record for our show whose job

1013
00:40:10,550 --> 00:40:08,280
it was to monitor the bass Straits to

1014
00:40:12,890 --> 00:40:10,560
make sure that nothing was launching or

1015
00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:12,900
Landing off of that cargo ship and

1016
00:40:16,250 --> 00:40:14,880
definitively it didn't they they wanted

1017
00:40:18,530 --> 00:40:16,260
it to be that because then they would

1018
00:40:20,510 --> 00:40:18,540
have solved the case that is a UFO case

1019
00:40:23,390 --> 00:40:20,520
that is a UAP there were trans medium

1020
00:40:25,490 --> 00:40:23,400
Vehicles there were hundreds of them I'm

1021
00:40:27,829 --> 00:40:25,500
gonna say a hundred plus because I'm

1022
00:40:31,790 --> 00:40:27,839
being conservative but 10 Navy warships

1023
00:40:34,430 --> 00:40:31,800
with like maybe 13 to 20 per ship at

1024
00:40:36,890 --> 00:40:34,440
times over the course of a few days so I

1025
00:40:39,290 --> 00:40:36,900
really see this as a problem if you're

1026
00:40:42,230 --> 00:40:39,300
myopic in the way that you look at a

1027
00:40:43,970 --> 00:40:42,240
case you're gonna miss the entirety of

1028
00:40:46,609 --> 00:40:43,980
the thing we know those were not U.S

1029
00:40:48,530 --> 00:40:46,619
assets we know that if they were Chinese

1030
00:40:50,089 --> 00:40:48,540
it would have been as popular as the

1031
00:40:51,609 --> 00:40:50,099
balloon story that came out when that

1032
00:40:54,589 --> 00:40:51,619
was just a Chinese balloon

1033
00:40:56,990 --> 00:40:54,599
reconnaissance balloon so yeah man I'm

1034
00:40:59,630 --> 00:40:57,000
with you it's a real problem people need

1035
00:41:01,670 --> 00:40:59,640
to be really sharp when they just read

1036
00:41:04,190 --> 00:41:01,680
something and parrot it without having

1037
00:41:06,109 --> 00:41:04,200
heard all the information

1038
00:41:08,510 --> 00:41:06,119
um I'd have to say this is the fastest

1039
00:41:10,970 --> 00:41:08,520
UFO investigation in the history of

1040
00:41:12,950 --> 00:41:10,980
military investigations of UFOs we

1041
00:41:15,770 --> 00:41:12,960
released these videos and the story

1042
00:41:18,170 --> 00:41:15,780
about the Mojave triangle uh Monday at

1043
00:41:20,990 --> 00:41:18,180
midnight and most people saw it hours

1044
00:41:23,690 --> 00:41:21,000
later within a few hours of that by the

1045
00:41:25,430 --> 00:41:23,700
afternoon of Monday Susan Goff had

1046
00:41:28,310 --> 00:41:25,440
responded she had apparently done an

1047
00:41:30,770 --> 00:41:28,320
investigation from her office in D.C uh

1048
00:41:33,290 --> 00:41:30,780
and had tried to explain this away oh

1049
00:41:34,430 --> 00:41:33,300
yeah we had assets in the air you know

1050
00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:34,440
that would have been the fastest

1051
00:41:38,930 --> 00:41:37,200
investigation ever and I seriously doubt

1052
00:41:40,730 --> 00:41:38,940
there was any actual legwork that was

1053
00:41:44,569 --> 00:41:40,740
done before that statement was released

1054
00:41:46,490 --> 00:41:44,579
yeah yeah look man if if people want to

1055
00:41:48,650 --> 00:41:46,500
come to a conclusion they're going to do

1056
00:41:50,150 --> 00:41:48,660
that if they want to undermine people

1057
00:41:51,950 --> 00:41:50,160
doing an investigation because they

1058
00:41:54,349 --> 00:41:51,960
don't like them then they're going to do

1059
00:41:57,109 --> 00:41:54,359
that but honestly I don't give a [\h__\h]

1060
00:41:59,569 --> 00:41:57,119
we're gonna keep just doing our work and

1061
00:42:01,849 --> 00:41:59,579
trying to get resolved look at this

1062
00:42:05,089 --> 00:42:01,859
point I can clearly say we are

1063
00:42:08,390 --> 00:42:05,099
representing the Marines who want to

1064
00:42:11,030 --> 00:42:08,400
know what it is that they saw and and

1065
00:42:12,589 --> 00:42:11,040
I'm not gonna let that go I have a duty

1066
00:42:14,810 --> 00:42:12,599
I mean isn't this like Memorial Day

1067
00:42:16,430 --> 00:42:14,820
Weekend hey man why don't we give these

1068
00:42:19,370 --> 00:42:16,440
guys a little bit of credit and then

1069
00:42:22,310 --> 00:42:19,380
also do the work for them so I got no

1070
00:42:23,270 --> 00:42:22,320
bones and saying at this point um you

1071
00:42:24,770 --> 00:42:23,280
know we're gonna see it to the end

1072
00:42:26,990 --> 00:42:24,780
because we're representing people that

1073
00:42:29,390 --> 00:42:27,000
want answers in the meantime let's hear

1074
00:42:31,490 --> 00:42:29,400
from what just one more of the witnesses

1075
00:42:32,810 --> 00:42:31,500
that said you know they want to go on

1076
00:42:34,970 --> 00:42:32,820
record because they want to know what

1077
00:42:37,069 --> 00:42:34,980
this was it's a really interesting

1078
00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:37,079
account of what happened that night

1079
00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:39,119
talks a lot about flares should we play

1080
00:42:44,630 --> 00:42:40,560
that one yeah

1081
00:42:47,270 --> 00:42:44,640
okay I was a lance corporal I had 29

1082
00:42:49,849 --> 00:42:47,280
Palms at Camp Olson

1083
00:42:52,730 --> 00:42:49,859
without knowing any of the hubbub in the

1084
00:42:55,550 --> 00:42:52,740
media right now that's going on you know

1085
00:43:01,430 --> 00:42:55,560
what night I'm referring to right

1086
00:43:02,750 --> 00:43:01,440
yes sir I did and 2021 20th of April you

1087
00:43:04,250 --> 00:43:02,760
were there

1088
00:43:06,290 --> 00:43:04,260
yes I was

1089
00:43:09,109 --> 00:43:06,300
you know exactly what I'm asking about

1090
00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:09,119
don't you oh I know the exact date

1091
00:43:12,770 --> 00:43:11,040
because I remember when the helicopter

1092
00:43:15,230 --> 00:43:12,780
started taking off and they were flying

1093
00:43:18,349 --> 00:43:15,240
jets all over the base all sporadically

1094
00:43:20,510 --> 00:43:18,359
shortly after all that happened okay and

1095
00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:20,520
is that your voice in the video that

1096
00:43:24,829 --> 00:43:23,280
says you can see a shape yes sir I

1097
00:43:27,650 --> 00:43:24,839
already know which video you are talking

1098
00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:27,660
about uh we all ran outside seeing what

1099
00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:29,760
it was at first of course we all thought

1100
00:43:33,829 --> 00:43:31,920
it was players but players don't stay up

1101
00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:33,839
in the air that long they're in like a

1102
00:43:38,930 --> 00:43:36,240
triangular shape they were just hoping

1103
00:43:40,790 --> 00:43:38,940
that a pattern for a long time you can

1104
00:43:43,069 --> 00:43:40,800
kind of see an outline of something but

1105
00:43:45,170 --> 00:43:43,079
we weren't sure what it was it just

1106
00:43:47,329 --> 00:43:45,180
looked like something I've never seen it

1107
00:43:49,250 --> 00:43:47,339
was very odd

1108
00:43:52,370 --> 00:43:49,260
why

1109
00:43:53,870 --> 00:43:52,380
well when a flare gets shot up I mean it

1110
00:43:56,089 --> 00:43:53,880
leaves a trail

1111
00:43:58,910 --> 00:43:56,099
and it's also being parachuted so it

1112
00:44:00,950 --> 00:43:58,920
doesn't sit in the same spot for a very

1113
00:44:03,170 --> 00:44:00,960
long period to come and the light dims

1114
00:44:04,550 --> 00:44:03,180
down that light was there for a very

1115
00:44:06,530 --> 00:44:04,560
long time

1116
00:44:10,250 --> 00:44:06,540
how long

1117
00:44:13,250 --> 00:44:10,260
it was

1118
00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:13,260
like approximate was it five minutes was

1119
00:44:15,950 --> 00:44:14,400
it an hour

1120
00:44:17,930 --> 00:44:15,960
I remember we were all out there out

1121
00:44:19,609 --> 00:44:17,940
there probably for about a good 30

1122
00:44:21,890 --> 00:44:19,619
minutes looking at it

1123
00:44:23,210 --> 00:44:21,900
it's like I said which makes no sense to

1124
00:44:25,550 --> 00:44:23,220
me if it would be a flare because the

1125
00:44:27,470 --> 00:44:25,560
flare is continuously falling

1126
00:44:30,349 --> 00:44:27,480
you'll see that smoke there's a

1127
00:44:32,930 --> 00:44:30,359
parachute attached to them so they slow

1128
00:44:34,609 --> 00:44:32,940
down while they fall

1129
00:44:36,530 --> 00:44:34,619
and you didn't you couldn't see a

1130
00:44:38,990 --> 00:44:36,540
parachute on them even if they were

1131
00:44:41,569 --> 00:44:39,000
zoomed in they weren't moving

1132
00:44:42,770 --> 00:44:41,579
it wasn't even burning like a burning

1133
00:44:45,710 --> 00:44:42,780
kind of light

1134
00:44:48,170 --> 00:44:45,720
because you know players combustion I

1135
00:44:50,870 --> 00:44:48,180
have a video where afterwards these Loom

1136
00:44:52,670 --> 00:44:50,880
flares go up and they look very

1137
00:44:55,010 --> 00:44:52,680
different like they're falling and

1138
00:44:58,130 --> 00:44:55,020
they're it's drastically different from

1139
00:44:59,990 --> 00:44:58,140
what we saw you're adamant that these

1140
00:45:02,390 --> 00:45:00,000
were not flares

1141
00:45:04,609 --> 00:45:02,400
yes sir

1142
00:45:07,370 --> 00:45:04,619
and is it because of the proximity to

1143
00:45:09,589 --> 00:45:07,380
you the color of them not seeing descent

1144
00:45:10,849 --> 00:45:09,599
not seeing smoke why are these not

1145
00:45:13,730 --> 00:45:10,859
flares

1146
00:45:16,069 --> 00:45:13,740
the smoke the sand like I said the

1147
00:45:19,670 --> 00:45:16,079
flares of combustion light so it's kind

1148
00:45:25,010 --> 00:45:21,530
and then those lights weren't flicker

1149
00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:25,020
unless it's like just bright just there

1150
00:45:28,069 --> 00:45:26,880
they were like perfect little orbs in a

1151
00:45:30,170 --> 00:45:28,079
triangle

1152
00:45:32,030 --> 00:45:30,180
you're saying that with normal flares

1153
00:45:34,190 --> 00:45:32,040
that I assume you've seen a lot of in

1154
00:45:37,130 --> 00:45:34,200
your military career right

1155
00:45:40,250 --> 00:45:37,140
yes sir okay so this doesn't look like

1156
00:45:41,870 --> 00:45:40,260
any flare that you've ever seen I have

1157
00:45:43,609 --> 00:45:41,880
not seen a flare like that in my

1158
00:45:45,829 --> 00:45:43,619
military career

1159
00:45:48,530 --> 00:45:45,839
it looks like it was eliminated fight

1160
00:45:50,809 --> 00:45:48,540
from a bulb or some other source

1161
00:45:52,670 --> 00:45:50,819
what was the color that you kind of saw

1162
00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:52,680
compared to like Loom flares or

1163
00:45:57,589 --> 00:45:54,960
something was it different in color

1164
00:46:00,050 --> 00:45:57,599
I mean we have some players we have red

1165
00:46:02,930 --> 00:46:00,060
flares but that was like a reddish

1166
00:46:04,609 --> 00:46:02,940
orange color those lights were with like

1167
00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:04,619
a hint of yellow around it we don't have

1168
00:46:08,990 --> 00:46:07,200
players that are like that color like

1169
00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:09,000
the red flares are like a blood red

1170
00:46:12,650 --> 00:46:10,560
color

1171
00:46:15,290 --> 00:46:12,660
a very bright

1172
00:46:17,210 --> 00:46:15,300
and if you had to approximate the size

1173
00:46:19,609 --> 00:46:17,220
what would the size of what you're

1174
00:46:22,069 --> 00:46:19,619
seeing how big was that would be that

1175
00:46:24,530 --> 00:46:22,079
pronounced from that distance

1176
00:46:27,170 --> 00:46:24,540
I mean it had to be pretty large

1177
00:46:28,370 --> 00:46:27,180
so a lot of people are saying what you

1178
00:46:30,650 --> 00:46:28,380
know well that that's just a normal

1179
00:46:33,530 --> 00:46:30,660
training exercise aren't there always

1180
00:46:35,630 --> 00:46:33,540
training exercises on that base yes sir

1181
00:46:37,670 --> 00:46:35,640
before any big deployment of marine

1182
00:46:40,730 --> 00:46:37,680
infantry unit will train on that base

1183
00:46:43,609 --> 00:46:40,740
let me ask you this I was told that

1184
00:46:45,950 --> 00:46:43,619
right after there was a pretty massive

1185
00:46:49,010 --> 00:46:45,960
response you know 65 ton Vehicles

1186
00:46:51,890 --> 00:46:49,020
Humvees helicopters it went to like 11

1187
00:46:53,030 --> 00:46:51,900
30 at night were you witness to that as

1188
00:46:55,730 --> 00:46:53,040
well

1189
00:46:58,609 --> 00:46:55,740
yes sir I was do you think that was in

1190
00:47:01,010 --> 00:46:58,619
direct response to what you saw

1191
00:47:03,170 --> 00:47:01,020
I believe so

1192
00:47:05,210 --> 00:47:03,180
what do you think they were doing

1193
00:47:06,829 --> 00:47:05,220
I think they were just surveying and

1194
00:47:09,410 --> 00:47:06,839
maybe trying to keep anything away from

1195
00:47:11,870 --> 00:47:09,420
us seeing what's out there

1196
00:47:14,030 --> 00:47:11,880
and the same thing they had uh Jets

1197
00:47:17,210 --> 00:47:14,040
fired up and they were feeling full

1198
00:47:21,530 --> 00:47:17,220
blast in that direction

1199
00:47:21,540 --> 00:47:25,430
honestly sir I did

1200
00:47:28,970 --> 00:47:27,410
it looked like it was observing you just

1201
00:47:30,950 --> 00:47:28,980
sat there and just watched us that's

1202
00:47:33,950 --> 00:47:30,960
what it felt like can you just explain

1203
00:47:35,210 --> 00:47:33,960
that to me so I understand

1204
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:35,220
relax

1205
00:47:40,970 --> 00:47:38,400
well like in our line of work if we were

1206
00:47:42,710 --> 00:47:40,980
going to do Recon on our enemy or

1207
00:47:44,450 --> 00:47:42,720
something we would take a high vantage

1208
00:47:46,670 --> 00:47:44,460
point where we could see a base and we

1209
00:47:49,730 --> 00:47:46,680
would plan it out

1210
00:47:52,490 --> 00:47:49,740
after like a while it just now it's just

1211
00:47:54,530 --> 00:47:52,500
even more just we know it wasn't players

1212
00:47:57,050 --> 00:47:54,540
because we talked about it a lot that

1213
00:47:58,550 --> 00:47:57,060
night it just felt like if it was

1214
00:48:00,770 --> 00:47:58,560
something

1215
00:48:04,069 --> 00:48:00,780
not from here that's what they were

1216
00:48:04,079 --> 00:48:07,609
how does that make you feel

1217
00:48:10,010 --> 00:48:08,569
um

1218
00:48:11,690 --> 00:48:10,020
kind of

1219
00:48:14,030 --> 00:48:11,700
I don't know how to explain it I feel

1220
00:48:15,530 --> 00:48:14,040
like I've known about it and it's just

1221
00:48:19,430 --> 00:48:15,540
like I felt like we've just been getting

1222
00:48:23,150 --> 00:48:21,890
and now that I saw that it kind of just

1223
00:48:25,130 --> 00:48:23,160
you know

1224
00:48:28,089 --> 00:48:25,140
confirmed it for me

1225
00:48:31,430 --> 00:48:28,099
at least to myself it did

1226
00:48:33,050 --> 00:48:31,440
so many [\h__\h] helicopters right now

1227
00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:33,060
we're chasing something

1228
00:48:38,210 --> 00:48:35,760
they're flying

1229
00:48:39,710 --> 00:48:38,220
they're going fast as hell too

1230
00:48:42,829 --> 00:48:39,720
if I get beamed up wearing like a

1231
00:48:43,730 --> 00:48:42,839
formation a couple of comments come to

1232
00:48:45,829 --> 00:48:43,740
mind

1233
00:48:47,930 --> 00:48:45,839
um the Marine witnesses that we've

1234
00:48:51,050 --> 00:48:47,940
talked to kind of make an assumption

1235
00:48:52,550 --> 00:48:51,060
that the massive response they saw was a

1236
00:48:53,750 --> 00:48:52,560
response to this thing that was in the

1237
00:48:55,250 --> 00:48:53,760
air

1238
00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:55,260
um and that is an assumption it's a

1239
00:48:58,790 --> 00:48:56,640
guess on their part we haven't gotten

1240
00:49:00,770 --> 00:48:58,800
anybody yet who says I was ordered to go

1241
00:49:02,630 --> 00:49:00,780
look for this object is that right

1242
00:49:04,970 --> 00:49:02,640
that's right that that's going to be

1243
00:49:07,010 --> 00:49:04,980
it's going to take longer time and if if

1244
00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:07,020
it turns out that we can definitively

1245
00:49:11,930 --> 00:49:10,079
prove that there was an exercise with a

1246
00:49:13,970 --> 00:49:11,940
flare in this configuration we have the

1247
00:49:16,190 --> 00:49:13,980
time stamps and all that then I'm going

1248
00:49:18,170 --> 00:49:16,200
to tell the Marines that they want to

1249
00:49:21,230 --> 00:49:18,180
know this was a big event if you noticed

1250
00:49:23,210 --> 00:49:21,240
in that interview he knew exactly he

1251
00:49:25,370 --> 00:49:23,220
hasn't watched the news and all that but

1252
00:49:27,530 --> 00:49:25,380
he knew exactly when I said Camp Wilson

1253
00:49:28,849 --> 00:49:27,540
I want to talk to you he knew exactly

1254
00:49:32,630 --> 00:49:28,859
what I was talking about this was an

1255
00:49:35,150 --> 00:49:32,640
indelible moment and over time he just

1256
00:49:36,470 --> 00:49:35,160
hasn't found explanation for it and

1257
00:49:39,410 --> 00:49:36,480
they've kind of talked amongst

1258
00:49:42,530 --> 00:49:39,420
themselves about it so we will hopefully

1259
00:49:45,290 --> 00:49:42,540
get direct witness testimony if that

1260
00:49:47,870 --> 00:49:45,300
were to be the case if it is prosaic and

1261
00:49:50,930 --> 00:49:47,880
were able to explain that then I'm gonna

1262
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:50,940
present that information to the Marines

1263
00:49:55,309 --> 00:49:53,040
and that's what's going on

1264
00:49:57,950 --> 00:49:55,319
um another point about the video that

1265
00:50:00,170 --> 00:49:57,960
was posted uh on the website of the of

1266
00:50:03,230 --> 00:50:00,180
the base so we saw all this green stuff

1267
00:50:05,329 --> 00:50:03,240
things fly around flashing as part of a

1268
00:50:07,970 --> 00:50:05,339
training exercise that we think was in

1269
00:50:09,710 --> 00:50:07,980
range 210 our marine Witnesses in this

1270
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:09,720
Valley in between them and the first

1271
00:50:13,430 --> 00:50:11,520
mountain range didn't see any of that

1272
00:50:16,190 --> 00:50:13,440
stuff we know that it took place over

1273
00:50:18,650 --> 00:50:16,200
four days four day operation not just on

1274
00:50:20,690 --> 00:50:18,660
the 20th that was at some other range

1275
00:50:23,030 --> 00:50:20,700
that stuff didn't happen in this Valley

1276
00:50:25,250 --> 00:50:23,040
but what did happen in this Valley was

1277
00:50:26,890 --> 00:50:25,260
the big response by all kinds of

1278
00:50:29,870 --> 00:50:26,900
helicopters all kinds of vehicles

1279
00:50:32,809 --> 00:50:29,880
seemingly looking for something right

1280
00:50:34,730 --> 00:50:32,819
yeah that that's what they concur all of

1281
00:50:36,849 --> 00:50:34,740
them that it was it was right there now

1282
00:50:39,530 --> 00:50:36,859
I mean I think that this particular

1283
00:50:41,990 --> 00:50:39,540
training exercise I mean they were there

1284
00:50:44,210 --> 00:50:42,000
for almost two months and and they said

1285
00:50:46,010 --> 00:50:44,220
that they're notified when there's going

1286
00:50:49,069 --> 00:50:46,020
to be something within close proximity

1287
00:50:50,990 --> 00:50:49,079
to them that's out of safety so it

1288
00:50:53,630 --> 00:50:51,000
really is

1289
00:50:56,630 --> 00:50:53,640
um problematic I I can't mesh those

1290
00:50:58,130 --> 00:50:56,640
things together yet I they look we're

1291
00:51:00,230 --> 00:50:58,140
trying to get answers for the people

1292
00:51:03,230 --> 00:51:00,240
that were there that's what we're trying

1293
00:51:05,510 --> 00:51:03,240
to do I really hope that that we can do

1294
00:51:08,210 --> 00:51:05,520
that we have a lot of assumptions right

1295
00:51:10,190 --> 00:51:08,220
now a lot of compelling information but

1296
00:51:12,470 --> 00:51:10,200
I'm just not I'm sorry man I'm just not

1297
00:51:15,410 --> 00:51:12,480
satisfied yet let's get there let's get

1298
00:51:18,049 --> 00:51:15,420
the answers for everybody yeah only a

1299
00:51:19,730 --> 00:51:18,059
question of flares will we report it if

1300
00:51:21,589 --> 00:51:19,740
we end up finding information that

1301
00:51:23,809 --> 00:51:21,599
confirms it was flares regular old

1302
00:51:26,690 --> 00:51:23,819
flares and the answer is yes I mean we

1303
00:51:28,370 --> 00:51:26,700
don't have a dog in the fight uh part of

1304
00:51:30,770 --> 00:51:28,380
the reason we're putting it out is to

1305
00:51:33,349 --> 00:51:30,780
get some answers as you said and I think

1306
00:51:35,510 --> 00:51:33,359
we now have a mechanism where we can do

1307
00:51:37,190 --> 00:51:35,520
that we know the information that we

1308
00:51:38,990 --> 00:51:37,200
need to get and we're trying to get it

1309
00:51:41,750 --> 00:51:39,000
right now but it it happened because we

1310
00:51:43,549 --> 00:51:41,760
put this stuff out and after two years

1311
00:51:45,049 --> 00:51:43,559
of gathering information we had hit a

1312
00:51:47,390 --> 00:51:45,059
roadblock

1313
00:51:51,190 --> 00:51:47,400
that's right and look you know if this

1314
00:51:53,450 --> 00:51:51,200
is some sort of mass Mirage or

1315
00:51:55,970 --> 00:51:53,460
misunderstanding from from these marines

1316
00:51:57,829 --> 00:51:55,980
they're open to that but we have to find

1317
00:52:00,109 --> 00:51:57,839
out I thought I found it so interesting

1318
00:52:03,109 --> 00:52:00,119
though the way that this one Marine you

1319
00:52:05,510 --> 00:52:03,119
just heard from how he why how he

1320
00:52:06,770 --> 00:52:05,520
eliminated flares that he sees all the

1321
00:52:08,990 --> 00:52:06,780
time they see all the time in their

1322
00:52:11,870 --> 00:52:09,000
training and it was it was the duration

1323
00:52:13,370 --> 00:52:11,880
it was the nature of the light that's

1324
00:52:15,170 --> 00:52:13,380
what they're describing they looked more

1325
00:52:17,870 --> 00:52:15,180
like they said it didn't look at all

1326
00:52:19,790 --> 00:52:17,880
like flares like Flair's kind of flicker

1327
00:52:22,069 --> 00:52:19,800
they would say even at distance

1328
00:52:24,109 --> 00:52:22,079
especially at distance because of the

1329
00:52:28,730 --> 00:52:24,119
Mirage effect that these looked like

1330
00:52:31,190 --> 00:52:28,740
Globes like solid Globes and the nature

1331
00:52:33,589 --> 00:52:31,200
of the light was different and the color

1332
00:52:36,349 --> 00:52:33,599
was different so there could be a lot of

1333
00:52:39,230 --> 00:52:36,359
explanations for that but also just

1334
00:52:41,510 --> 00:52:39,240
having that appearance of of being a

1335
00:52:44,690 --> 00:52:41,520
crowd I mean I I try not to focus on

1336
00:52:48,650 --> 00:52:44,700
that I want them to tell me but that's

1337
00:52:51,710 --> 00:52:48,660
what they report so it's just it's

1338
00:52:53,510 --> 00:52:51,720
man it's it's a case it's a case and I

1339
00:52:55,730 --> 00:52:53,520
I'm glad that it's out there and

1340
00:52:57,470 --> 00:52:55,740
hopefully we can come to a definitive

1341
00:52:59,809 --> 00:52:57,480
result and I think we will be able to

1342
00:53:01,609 --> 00:52:59,819
but not until that moment uh are we

1343
00:53:04,910 --> 00:53:01,619
going to close this for them they want

1344
00:53:09,710 --> 00:53:04,920
us to they want to know for sure and and

1345
00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:09,720
again UAP reporting it it's broken the

1346
00:53:12,890 --> 00:53:11,760
way that it goes up the chain of command

1347
00:53:14,750 --> 00:53:12,900
people

1348
00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:14,760
um even on that night

1349
00:53:20,750 --> 00:53:18,960
it's like they're afraid to put it up

1350
00:53:23,210 --> 00:53:20,760
through the chain of command to say hey

1351
00:53:24,890 --> 00:53:23,220
you know what did we see that's not none

1352
00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:24,900
of your business I mean so what what do

1353
00:53:28,849 --> 00:53:27,119
they get what do they get from that so

1354
00:53:30,950 --> 00:53:28,859
this is one of the ways in which we're

1355
00:53:32,990 --> 00:53:30,960
going to get better UAP reporting and

1356
00:53:35,809 --> 00:53:33,000
reduce the stigma because it needs to

1357
00:53:38,690 --> 00:53:35,819
reduce and George you always say over

1358
00:53:41,569 --> 00:53:38,700
and over you always say it's our job to

1359
00:53:44,390 --> 00:53:41,579
investigate the Unexplained not to

1360
00:53:47,530 --> 00:53:44,400
explain the uninvestigated and and we

1361
00:53:51,170 --> 00:53:47,540
see how important that is with the 2019

1362
00:53:53,990 --> 00:53:51,180
UAP events the Swarms and we see how

1363
00:53:56,030 --> 00:53:54,000
that import how important that is even

1364
00:53:59,030 --> 00:53:56,040
even right now

1365
00:54:03,230 --> 00:53:59,040
yeah I mean we want information about

1366
00:54:06,170 --> 00:54:03,240
UAP or unknowns to flow upward when a

1367
00:54:09,290 --> 00:54:06,180
bunch of Marines at a U.S Marine Base

1368
00:54:10,670 --> 00:54:09,300
think they saw a craft over that base we

1369
00:54:12,290 --> 00:54:10,680
think it should be reported that

1370
00:54:14,450 --> 00:54:12,300
somebody should look into it not just a

1371
00:54:16,490 --> 00:54:14,460
phone call from Susan Goff from her DC

1372
00:54:18,710 --> 00:54:16,500
office uh Gathering a little bit of

1373
00:54:21,410 --> 00:54:18,720
information not investigating it I mean

1374
00:54:23,270 --> 00:54:21,420
DOD says all the time uh they're

1375
00:54:25,910 --> 00:54:23,280
pretending they want transparency that's

1376
00:54:28,069 --> 00:54:25,920
the buzzword well let's have some you

1377
00:54:30,230 --> 00:54:28,079
know let's take a look at this uh you

1378
00:54:32,089 --> 00:54:30,240
know the Marines could be wrong but we

1379
00:54:35,930 --> 00:54:32,099
don't have definitive answers on that

1380
00:54:37,670 --> 00:54:35,940
yet uh you know in this case uh the

1381
00:54:40,309 --> 00:54:37,680
people who jump on this and try to

1382
00:54:41,870 --> 00:54:40,319
debunk it helped us because a lot of

1383
00:54:44,450 --> 00:54:41,880
additional information that we didn't

1384
00:54:47,210 --> 00:54:44,460
have came forward and we'll be reporting

1385
00:54:50,089 --> 00:54:47,220
more on that as well to those who kind

1386
00:54:52,670 --> 00:54:50,099
of went nuts on this uh produced videos

1387
00:54:54,549 --> 00:54:52,680
and tweeted dozens of times all that I

1388
00:54:58,190 --> 00:54:54,559
just have two words for them thank you

1389
00:55:02,750 --> 00:55:00,650
I I get afraid every time you say You're

1390
00:55:05,450 --> 00:55:02,760
Gonna you're gonna say two words God

1391
00:55:08,630 --> 00:55:05,460
forbid God forbid you say five words in

1392
00:55:11,630 --> 00:55:08,640
an email okay so like here's the deal

1393
00:55:13,130 --> 00:55:11,640
um yeah it is so important that this

1394
00:55:16,069 --> 00:55:13,140
reporting this type of reporting happens

1395
00:55:19,849 --> 00:55:16,079
because we know that there are

1396
00:55:23,270 --> 00:55:19,859
incursions on military bases of craft of

1397
00:55:26,510 --> 00:55:23,280
Unknown Origin that can do things that

1398
00:55:29,089 --> 00:55:26,520
our military assets can't do we have

1399
00:55:32,390 --> 00:55:29,099
chased them we have fired upon them

1400
00:55:35,270 --> 00:55:32,400
which is a unambiguous case that you and

1401
00:55:40,010 --> 00:55:35,280
I are going to report on about firing on

1402
00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:40,020
UAP in war zones in in in Conflict zones

1403
00:55:44,690 --> 00:55:42,480
a better way to say it so we know there

1404
00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:44,700
are incursions of machines of Unknown

1405
00:55:49,309 --> 00:55:47,520
Origin that that we don't know how their

1406
00:55:52,430 --> 00:55:49,319
technology works because our own

1407
00:55:55,609 --> 00:55:52,440
government has admitted that to us oddly

1408
00:55:57,950 --> 00:55:55,619
enough so bringing these cases to light

1409
00:56:00,950 --> 00:55:57,960
helps us either you know show hey this

1410
00:56:03,470 --> 00:56:00,960
is the nature of it or this is you know

1411
00:56:05,450 --> 00:56:03,480
a resolved case but we know the

1412
00:56:08,030 --> 00:56:05,460
incursions happen and so a case like

1413
00:56:10,790 --> 00:56:08,040
this is super important to get to the

1414
00:56:13,250 --> 00:56:10,800
bottom of in my in my opinion

1415
00:56:15,829 --> 00:56:13,260
yeah there's there are some holes in

1416
00:56:18,170 --> 00:56:15,839
this obviously some information that we

1417
00:56:19,910 --> 00:56:18,180
need to resolve it but if we get it and

1418
00:56:22,849 --> 00:56:19,920
we will get it now we have a better idea

1419
00:56:23,930 --> 00:56:22,859
what we need to aim for and where it

1420
00:56:26,150 --> 00:56:23,940
might be

1421
00:56:27,950 --> 00:56:26,160
um we will report it if it turns out

1422
00:56:31,490 --> 00:56:27,960
that these are flares and we can confirm

1423
00:56:32,809 --> 00:56:31,500
it we'll report it until then though you

1424
00:56:34,790 --> 00:56:32,819
know if people want to make up their

1425
00:56:36,829 --> 00:56:34,800
mind and make a conclusion and move on

1426
00:56:38,750 --> 00:56:36,839
fine uh but we're going to keep working

1427
00:56:40,430 --> 00:56:38,760
on it yeah yeah at least we're going to

1428
00:56:42,049 --> 00:56:40,440
keep working on it to make sure that uh

1429
00:56:43,609 --> 00:56:42,059
the Marines get answers and I do want to

1430
00:56:46,069 --> 00:56:43,619
do a shout out being Memorial Day

1431
00:56:48,109 --> 00:56:46,079
weekend to those that have served lost

1432
00:56:50,390 --> 00:56:48,119
their lives that have served but also

1433
00:56:52,309 --> 00:56:50,400
those marines that are here with us now

1434
00:56:54,770 --> 00:56:52,319
and and do feel comfortable coming

1435
00:56:56,089 --> 00:56:54,780
forward to us I just want to thank all

1436
00:56:57,829 --> 00:56:56,099
of them even though we're not using

1437
00:56:59,390 --> 00:56:57,839
their names because of the stigma and

1438
00:57:01,849 --> 00:56:59,400
because they have jobs or they're still

1439
00:57:04,010 --> 00:57:01,859
you know um involved in in their

1440
00:57:06,589 --> 00:57:04,020
military positions I just want to say

1441
00:57:08,390 --> 00:57:06,599
thank you for for having the you know

1442
00:57:10,130 --> 00:57:08,400
courage to to talk with us about

1443
00:57:11,930 --> 00:57:10,140
uncomfortable things and we're going to

1444
00:57:13,670 --> 00:57:11,940
do our best for you uh and just a big

1445
00:57:15,950 --> 00:57:13,680
shout out to all of our service people

1446
00:57:17,329 --> 00:57:15,960
on this weekend and George really good

1447
00:57:20,150 --> 00:57:17,339
to see you and thanks for spending time

1448
00:57:22,790 --> 00:57:20,160
in this weird version of weaponized

1449
00:57:25,490 --> 00:57:22,800
podcast where we are in our home bunkers

1450
00:57:27,230 --> 00:57:25,500
look at yours that is that 35 years of

1451
00:57:29,390 --> 00:57:27,240
being an investigative reporter breaking

1452
00:57:31,549 --> 00:57:29,400
stores on things other than UFOs too oh

1453
00:57:34,309 --> 00:57:31,559
people can't see this but I'm I'm living

1454
00:57:36,650 --> 00:57:34,319
in a palatial estate it's awesome here

1455
00:57:40,010 --> 00:57:36,660
it's so clean and orderly here in my

1456
00:57:41,809 --> 00:57:40,020
home office don't you agree oh my gosh

1457
00:57:45,290 --> 00:57:41,819
man I swear to God when I come stay with

1458
00:57:47,270 --> 00:57:45,300
you I'm sleeping on reams of papers

1459
00:57:49,010 --> 00:57:47,280
thank you thank you so much man and

1460
00:57:51,049 --> 00:57:49,020
we'll we'll see everybody next week I

1461
00:57:52,430 --> 00:57:51,059
got a sense I do want to ask you one

1462
00:57:56,329 --> 00:57:52,440
thing George

1463
00:57:59,450 --> 00:57:56,339
did you um oh slave in a way with family

1464
00:58:02,510 --> 00:57:59,460
problems and slaving away at like you

1465
00:58:05,210 --> 00:58:02,520
know being stuck to my computer were you

1466
00:58:06,890 --> 00:58:05,220
out having fun at some epic concert

1467
00:58:09,950 --> 00:58:06,900
without me

1468
00:58:13,370 --> 00:58:09,960
I can neither confirm nor deny that I

1469
00:58:15,170 --> 00:58:13,380
saw Lord Huron playing in Reno uh but I

1470
00:58:17,510 --> 00:58:15,180
have heard that it is an exceptional

1471
00:58:20,030 --> 00:58:17,520
show we might have more on that later on

1472
00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:20,040
yeah yeah this is a buddy of yours who's

1473
00:58:24,349 --> 00:58:22,559
an amazing musician and artist and

1474
00:58:26,270 --> 00:58:24,359
talented and I I hope we do George

1475
00:58:28,730 --> 00:58:26,280
because that guy's just um something

1476
00:58:30,890 --> 00:58:28,740
he's out of this world hope everyone

1477
00:58:32,930 --> 00:58:30,900
enjoys their Memorial Day weekend

1478
00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:32,940
well I think they'll be receiving this

1479
00:58:42,070 --> 00:58:35,520
right after so we hope you enjoyed your

1480
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:48,650
[Music]

1481
00:58:57,370 --> 00:58:52,910
never have so few had so much to tell

1482
00:59:01,130 --> 00:58:59,450
weaponized presentation of Jeremy

1483
00:59:03,109 --> 00:59:01,140
Corbell George Knapp Dark Horse

1484
00:59:05,210 --> 00:59:03,119
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